Donkey Punch

August 19, 2008

John McCain may be a Veteran, but he was Not Tortured.

That’s right, folks. john McCain can shut his old, wrinkly claptrap about being tortured.

All the things done to McCain in Vietnam – stress positions, sleep deprivation, extreme temperatures, withholding medical attention, beatings – were legalized by the Military Commissions Act of 2006.

Andrew Sullivan via jpadgett:

No war crimes were committed against McCain. And the techniques used are, according to the president, tools to extract accurate information. And so the false confessions that McCain was forced to make were, according to the logic of the Bush administration, as accurate as the “intelligence” we have procured from “interrogating” terror suspects…the government of the United States now practices the very same techniques that the Communist government of North Vietnam once proudly used against American soldiers.

Not Torture

HEY, OLD MAN! QUIT YER BITCHIN’! I’m sure Ho Chi Minh determined that Enhanced Interogation Techniques were necessary to guard against the American threat, so who are you to complain?

Do you hear these guys complaining?:

Godwinned Again!



  1. Hm, just because something is not a war crime, doesn’t mean someone was not tortured. McCain was indeed interrogated and questionable tactics were used. That is a fact. If it is not “torture,” then why don’t you submit yourself to those same practices?

    Comment by fangfarris — August 19, 2008 @ 4:30 pm

  2. I think we are on the same page but maybe my dry delivery obscured it. Of course McCain was tortured. I guess I was trying to point out the crazy level of irony (hypocrisy?) in this situation.

    Comment by t4toby — August 19, 2008 @ 5:34 pm

  3. Correct. What is clearly torture has now been redefined as “not torture” by the US Government. Of course these rules only apply to US/US Allies’ actions against detainees, if anyone hits us with the same shit, it’s torture.

    Comment by grindchopblend — August 19, 2008 @ 6:21 pm

  4. I find the detractive ramblings of Andrew Sullivan to be torture. Why doesn’t he describe what was done to Sen McCain in his ridiculous claim.

    Comment by Carl — August 19, 2008 @ 8:13 pm

  5. Here’s a good article about McCain’s experience.

    Even if it is from the woeful Newsmax

    Comment by t4toby — August 20, 2008 @ 11:05 am

  6. Response to Number 2:
    Ah! Understood! I never was one for satire…I understand it, but rarely pick up on it! (I was kind of in an argumentative mood)

    Comment by fangfarris — August 20, 2008 @ 3:05 pm

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