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September 11, 2007

9/11

Filed under: 9/11, Hypocrisy, Outrage Fatigue, Politics, protest — t4toby @ 9:48 am

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I have recovered from my dark mood yesterday. It is politics. It can drown you if you don’t go up for air enough.

So today is some sort of anniversary? I can hardly elicit strong feelings for today. So we were attacked six years ago. How many times have we attacked other countries with much more devastating results?

How many people die from drowning in the US each year? About 3500.

How many people died in 9/11? 2973.

Okay, that’s not fair, because drownings tend to be accidental, while 9/11 was on purpose, but do you get where I’m going here? I guess a better analogy would be to compare it to Pearl Harbor(ask the PNAC). I remember what day the attack was on , but I suspect this has more to do with the fact that I had an old advent calendar when I was growing up, and we always put the little yellow plastic fighter plane on the seventh. But a day of rememberence? What does that mean?

I feel horrible for all the Americans who lost their lives on September 11. I also feel horrible about the wholesale slaughter of people in Iraq. (And Rwanda, and Palestine, and Israel, and many other terrible places as well.)   Nationalistic fervor is the only thing that sets the 9/11 deaths apart from any other group of 3,000 people. And that fervor has been exploited at every turn.

So forgive me if I don’t feel particularly sad today. Every day is the anniversary of something horrible that politicians have used to their advantage. Let’s find something to be thankful for today, instead of dredging up the murky past.

(I wish I could remember the story behind that picture. I think it is an entire French town in WWI. Bunker Mentality…)

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10 Comments »

  1. I’m thankful for this post! I couldn’t have said it better myself!

    The scientifically impossible I do right away
    The spiritually miraculous takes a bit longer

    Comment by ClapSo — September 11, 2007 @ 10:31 am

  2. Poignant.

    And well written.

    I remember this day in 2001.

    As I entered the fourth hour of being glued to my TV, I was desperate to find something redeeming rise from the ashes of the WTC, the Pentagon and in that field in rural Pennsylvannia.

    I believe I saw the Phoenix…for a little while, anyway. Maybe it was because I “needed’ to see it. Emotional salve for my emotional wounds.

    I wrote about it in my blog , too.

    I’ll never forget the significance of Septemeber 11th.

    Then again,I can’t even see the date of November 22nd without thinking of a young president, his lovely First Lady, an easier, more innocent time and the cold, windy day in Dallas that seemed to stop time, progress and life as we knew it.

    LK
    lauriekendrick.wordpress.com

    Comment by lauriekendrick — September 11, 2007 @ 10:48 am

  3. It’s totally outrageous, incredibly disrespectful, and unbelievably tacky to say such things- especially on September 11nth. I bet you’d be feeling a little differently if one of YOUR family members worked in those buildings and went to work one day and never came home because some islamic whack jobs decided that the best way to get into heaven is to kill as many non-believers as possible. Religiously-motivated mass murder comparable in signifigance to accidental drowning statistics? If you have a shred of integrity, you will take this post down immediatly and apologize at once to the families of the victims.

    Comment by tyharris — September 11, 2007 @ 4:49 pm

  4. hey tyharris: go on back to lahlah land… you totally don’t get it. everyone is sad that so many people died. the truth is 9/11 has been USED by the government (or was it created by the government???) as justification for global mass murder…. that is the ultimate disprespect for the people who died on 9/11. So many of the families have come out and said as much…. now it’s time for you to calm down and take your medication.

    Comment by cognitiveD — September 11, 2007 @ 6:12 pm

  5. cognitive d: “created by the government”? What exactly is THAT supposed to mean? Is this more conspiracy theory crap that is supposed to have me believe that Bush- the “genius” who couldnt find his own ass with both hands half the time- brilliantly planned and executed the 9-11 plot himself so that he could have more power? And dropping bombs on the islamic whack-jobs who attacked us- and the un-intentional collateral damage that happens in any war- is NOT the moral equivilant of their INTENTIONAL attacks against innocent men, women and children whose only crime was going to work one fine september morning. The fact that you have the audacity to even try and get away with such ridiculous statements and comparisons is proof that the liberal philosophy of moral relativism has turned your brains to mush. You don’t even know the difference between right and wrong anymore. Killing the assholes who did this to us- AND all of their crazy islamic supporters/cheerleaders- seems like a PERFECTLY appropriate way to respond to what happened, and planting the flag of freedom and democracy in the heart of the middle-east where the attackers came from- to try and make this world a better place in the future- seems like a FINE way to honor the fallen.

    Comment by tyharris — September 11, 2007 @ 6:42 pm

  6. Everyone loves a troll, I’m told.

    Comment by cognitiveD — September 11, 2007 @ 9:04 pm

  7. oh… and just because you can string a lot of sentences together here and on your own blog doesn’t make you enlightened or intelligently designed… it’s just further proof your medication needs adjusting…..

    Comment by cognitiveD — September 11, 2007 @ 9:06 pm

  8. Ty, I believe that intentionally dropping bombs that you know will have ‘un-intentional collateral damage’ is akin to terrorism. The only time it is necessary is in defense of your country, a la WWII.

    The people who attacked us are in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Our aggression in Iraq has created a breeding ground for the terrorists we claim to be so interested in fighting. (How is Bin Laden still free?) Corporations and the elite rich have taken the tragedy of 9/11 and co-opted it into a war about economics.

    It is terrible that the families of 9/11 had to go through what they went through. but as you said, we live in the greatest country in the world. Look on the bright side.

    Now think what it is like to lose half your family to ‘un-intentional collateral damage’ and have to live in a country where electricity is scarce, running water is scarcer, and the chance of another ‘un-intentional’ bomb dropping on your head is a real possibility.

    It’s about perspective, my friend.

    Comment by t4toby — September 12, 2007 @ 9:44 am

  9. If un-intentional infliction of colateral damage in retaliation is the moral equivilant of intentional unprovoked mass-murder of civilians, then by your logic, retailiation in self-defense is NEVER justified and all evil must be met with acceptance and passivity- which is total crap of course.
    We were attaked prior to world war II- pearl Harbor. We were attacked prior to the War on Terrorism- 9-11. In both cases, our actions in retaliation are justifiable self-defense. Obviously, preventing known state-sonsors of islamic terrorism ( and genocidal maniacs like Sadaam Husein ) from possesing or developing weapons of mass destruction is a primary component of self-defense.
    If we are to accept your “breeding ground” argument as a valid reason to not be in Iraq, then by extrapolation, we cant fight the jihadists ANYWHERE in ANY muslim country- because wherever we do so, it’s just going to make them mad and create a “breeding ground”. News flash for you- they ALREADY hate us and want to kill us. We cant just do nothing, nor should we.
    Reality is NOT a matter of perspective, morality is NOT relative, Good and Evil are REAL distinctions, and truth DOAESN’T change depending on how you look at it. 2+2 doesnt equal both 4 AND 5. Facts are facts. The enemy started this- not us, and THEY bear the responsibility for the colateral damage that happens as a result of our retaliation. If they were men, they would stand up and fight us in the open like men. But they dont- they strike at innocents, and then run and hide in the general population like the cowards they are.
    Actually, The people who attacked us were the radical islamists, the jihadists, and Al Queada- and they are ALL in Iraq right now ( as the name AL QUAEDA IN IRAQ would imply! ). They are coming from all over the world to fight us there, and we are burying them there- every single day. And that’s a good thing.

    Comment by tyharris — September 12, 2007 @ 11:55 am

  10. Oh, Ty, you are destined for the big time. your effortless espousing of Right Wing talking points is pitch perfect.

    First is you lumping all middle eastern people together as ‘They’. Not much room for gray there, is there? Okay, I’ll accept your ‘THEY’. So you’re saying that the population of Iraq hated us enough that THEY would cause terrorism against us? Are you also sayin that Al Queada in Iraq would have existed if we hadn’t invaded?

    If un-intentional infliction of colateral damage in retaliation is the moral equivilant of intentional unprovoked mass-murder of civilians, then by your logic, retailiation in self-defense is NEVER justified and all evil must be met with acceptance and passivity- which is total crap of course.

    No, by my logic, you’d better have a really good reason to do it. We did not attack Iraq in ‘retaliation in self-defense’. we pre-emtively attacked because of WMDs…nope, I mean Freedom is on the March…nope…I mean as they stand up, we’ll stand down…Why did we attack Iraq again, anyway? And why is OBL still on the lam?

    This sentence is most telling:

    Obviously, preventing known state-sonsors of islamic terrorism ( and genocidal maniacs like Sadaam Husein)

    What anout the genocidal maniacs that we support until we’re done supporting them? Do you have any idea where the Taliban got all of its seed money? Do you have any idea where Saddam Hussein got the money to develop the 4th most powerful military in the world? (pre 1991) Where is the black and white in these situations? Where is your real distinction between good and evil?

    So your logic sez: Osama Bin Laden was good when he was helping us by confounding the Soviet Union in Afghanistan, but evil when he attacked us? Or was he always evil, and the Regan era program of funding and training the Taliban was evil?

    Same line of thinking: Saddam Hussein was useful against Iran(albeit evil), so we funneled huge amounts of money to him for his military because we are…evil? Or was it that because he was against Iran he was the lesser of two evils, making the support of him…less evil? Or was it because we are so good that we white wash any evil that come into contact with use, rendering it good?

    This is where your black and white outlook becomes horrendously tortured.

    Back to the breeding ground comment-where were the jihadists in Iraq before we kicked in their front door and started killing their families? Where was the terror threat actually from? Oh, yeah. Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Our allies. So if they support terror, they are evil. B..B.But they are our allies, so they’re…good?

    How do you deal with the nuances of International Politics? I can see why you lump all Middle Easterners into one crowd. It sure simplifies things, doesn’t it…

    Comment by t4toby — September 12, 2007 @ 12:46 pm


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